This whole liberal vs conservative discussion IS an American issue and one they’ve exported to Europe unfortunately. Liberal hasn’t meant what you think it means in over 10 years except in circlejerks and academia

There’s plenty of people who are pro minorities rights and are not capitalists.

Then perhaps you should travel to other countries?

And when your kind says the things your kind often says, I think you can see why more moderate people consider you about equivalent with the nazis. What to most people means “doesn’t hate minorities and wants everyone to have healthcare” is what tankies seem to hate much more than they hate actual fascists.

Horseshoe seems pretty real tbh.

Liberal in modern western political discourse has little to do with capitalism anymore and more about your stance on social issues like LGBT rights, racial equality or healthcare. Half of lemmy pretends not to understand it for some reason but it’s been like that for a few decades.

It’s the result of conservatives using “libtard” and “communist” interchangeably for everyone to the left of Reagan while by the old definition they’re actually liberals.

Languages evolve. Prescriptivism is useless.