• Derpenheim@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    This is not snark, I am actually asking here, because I clearly am missing something.

    What does Israel and Ukraine have in common?

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      taiwan is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie literally funded by the us. south korea is occupied land by the us after they lost the war. israel is a nazi state sustained in its current form for the purpose of genociding the entire middle east. ukraine is a puppet state that has been receiving cia funding, military training, and equipment with the only purpose of destabilizing russia. so essentially they’re all varying degrees of us imperialism in different shades.

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          29 days ago

          they didn’t but that was the plan. if russia wouldn’t have invaded the idea would have been to fund paramilitary groups that do terrorist attacks. it’s the same fucking tactic they’ve used in xinjiang and many fucking other places. the difference is that russia didn’t let these right wing terrorists do their thang. thus the SMO started.

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          29 days ago

          what you seem to be cool about is with the us militarily funding white supremacist groups in ukraine to kill ethnic russian in the donetsk and luhansk. you’re so full of shit you can’t even say anything about past imperialist projects by the us, those are probably real and verified by the cia, but you would have said the same shit you’re saying now if this were vietnam. you’d be convincing me how the vietnamese are filthy red rats who’re no better than shit and that you’re doing a better job since you’re bringing democracy to them. you’re white, you know better than them. it’s a rule.

          don’t come to me with bullshit moraline because i don’t want a single hit of that cia fabricated crap.

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              29 days ago

              https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/040/2014/en/ https://www.hrw.org/report/2016/07/21/you-dont-exist/arbitrary-detentions-enforced-disappearances-and-torture-eastern

              i can’t say these are very good sources since they’re western so they’re in bed with the us regime.

              It’s not Europe. It’s a bit different… There is a war here. The law has changed, procedures have been simplified… If I choose to, I can have you arrested right now, put a bag over your head and lock you up in a cellar for 30 days on suspicion of aiding separatists. –Aidar battalion commander to Amnesty International researcher

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                29 days ago

                An article from Russian state-owned media?

                As far as the report goes, I’ll have to get back to you on that when I have a chance to read it. But leading with an RIA article doesn’t really help your article.

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                  29 days ago

                  Yes. State media often has better access to public figures, like this one which cites the president of the Republic. I could also waste my time looking an article by the very unbiased BBC or AP or Reuters paraphrasing this one, but personally I prefer getting as close as possible to first hand sources. I also prefer to remain critical of all media, and read articles critically instead of short-circuiting my brain to “is this on list of media my bourgeois government approved for me?”

                  Having done that its pretty clear - which one can corrobate if they wish - that the president of the Republic urged its citizens to evavuate to Russia due to the increasingly aggressive attacks by Ukrainian artillery on civilians.
                  I then gave you a report that supported his claims. Sorry I dared to use state affiliated media in order to quote a state official on actions taken by the state. I’ll do better next time and look for something written in a newspaper owned by a proper american oligarch or one with a track record about lying properly to further American foreign interests

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                    29 days ago

                    is this on list of media my bourgeois government approved for me?"

                    Oh, well I guess you got me there. Better go ahead and share the bourgeois Russian state media source.