• bassomitron@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Ukraine–the county literally being invaded by Russia–is an imperialist, war mongering tyrant? Get the fuck out of here with this slop. Could’ve just left it with the main flags, but throwing Ukraine’s flag in there is legit braindead Chinese/Russian trolling.

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      7 months ago

      Yeah not sure what Ukraine is doing there, clearly a troll. But not even the Soviet Union, China, US, UK all the other does not excuse them from their atrocities. They are all bad, it does not matter if a Communist or a Capitalist is oppressing you, oppression is oppression. Trying to excuse your oppression by referring to the other side does it too is not a valid argument. People deserve freedom not subjugation

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        7 months ago

        They are all bad

        Good job, that’s exactly the understanding and framing that the Council on Foreign Relations wants you to have.

        Trying to excuse your oppression does it too is not a valid argument.

        Nobody is making such an argument.

        People deserve freedom not subjugation

        Ok then, that was always allowed.

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      7 months ago

      If the US is running the show then yeah it’s definitely imperialism, we’ve very clearly succeeded in mongering up a war there, and I do recall some pretty unambiguous reports of the current regime in Ukraine directly suppressing opposition parties and suspending elections

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          7 months ago

          There was just cause. The Kiev regime has killed 13,000 civilians in the Donbass region, and had amassed huge amounts of troops to retake the seperatist regions shortly before Russian intervention stopped the invasion.

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          7 months ago

          Is eight years of ethnic cleansing, three broken treaties and potential nukes in the hands of a nazi junta not “just cause” enough for you?

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          7 months ago

          The west treats Ukraine like they do Israel. After the western-supported Euromaidan coup in 2014, they’ve armed millitant Banderites to crack down on communists and geopolitical adversaries of the west.

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          7 months ago

          Its government came to power as a result of a US-backed coup, for starters.

          edit: For the record, I upvoted you because your question is fair and valid if you don’t know the history and context of the situation. And the western media where many people understandably (if sadly) get their information from will never provide that history and context. That is why we get these confidently ignorant people coming into threads like this gobsmacked that anyone can deny what they see as the obvious truth of Russia’s “unjustified invasion by a foreign aggressor.”