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jankforlife@lemmy.mlBanned to Memes@lemmy.ml · 8 months ago

VERY concerned LMBO

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VERY concerned LMBO

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jankforlife@lemmy.mlBanned to Memes@lemmy.ml · 8 months ago
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  • SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    (Mass dislikes time!)

    Yes, the US does evil shit in the Middle East. Killing brown-skinned practitioners of the other Abrahamic religion overseas is an American tradition.

    That still doesn’t change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

    You can’t shit-talk one authoritarian state and cheer on another.

    • davel@lemmy.ml
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      That still doesn’t change the fact that China is persecuting Uyghurs in the Xinjiang province.

      Previously:

      The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

      The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same map” imperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

      Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
      https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330 #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

      • The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
      • A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
      • The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
      • Uyghur genocide allegations
      • American Debunks All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
      • US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
      • The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
      • tyler@programming.dev
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        8 months ago

        Sources:

        • china news propaganda site
        • medium article from rando
        • project syndicate link which is an op-ed site (not news)
        • a wiki page from an incredibly biased group
        • a youtube link…
        • a site calling itself a news site, yet no actual credentials, but seems to be associated with China (Ajit Singh has written Chinese propaganda books)
        • a substack link

        This has to be the least compelling list of evidence one could provide, and yet you get upvotes because it looks like you’ve provided proof of something. All you’ve done is provide a lot of incredibly, seriously biased opinions with no actual facts at all.

        • davel@lemmy.ml
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          8 months ago

          Wow, I wonder why there aren’t any Western corporate media sources with a Media Bias/Fact Check seal of approval…

          Previously:

          The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.

          The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’.

          This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.

          The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”

          None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.

          • Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
          • Propaganda model
          • Edward Bernays
          • Walter Lippmann
          • Council on Foreign Relations
          • Powell Memorandum
          • The Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy

          * I’ve criticized MBFC & Ad Fontes before:

          • https://lemmy.ml/post/12705767/8913172
          • https://lemmy.ml/post/13566156/9605612
          • dangrousperson@feddit.org
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            8 months ago

            It’s OK to distrust more than one Government, but how anyone can believe the Chineses Government in this matter is beyond me.

            Did you not see the insanely violent crack down on Hong Kong Democracy Movement with you own eyes? Do you not remember Tianamen Square? Great Fire-Wall?

            Theres liyteraly over 10GB or evidence of the persecution of Uyghurs by the Chinese Government:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Police_Files

            I can understand not wanting to believe/trust the US and EU Govs, but trusting the Chinese Government is (IMO) insane.

            • davel@lemmy.ml
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              8 months ago

              Did you not see the insanely violent crack down on Hong Kong Democracy Movement with you own eyes?

              Previously:

              The UK’s 99 year lease to subjugate the people of Hong Kong ended, a lease which had been forced upon Imperial China at gunpoint during the century of humiliation. Hong Kong reintegration after the lease expired was a foregone conclusion. The last minute, US-backed attempt at color revolution failed. It was the so-called “revolutionaries” who brought the brutality, by the way.


              Do you not remember Tianamen Square?

              Previously:

              I’ve already asked another commenter this but it’s valid here too: Would you class the western oppression of dissent to be on the same level as that famous student protest in China?

              Only someone misinformed about the 1989 protest and US/CIA/NED-orchestrated, murderously violent riot would ask this, which to be fair is 99% of Westerners.

              • 📺 The Tiananmen Square “Massacre” Never Happened: part 1, part 2, part 3 — [Sources]
                • Edit to add: YouTube took the original video down for “violating YouTube’s terms of service,” but I found a reploaded a copy, splitting it up into three pieces. This is why you don’t know what really happened, because Western corporate media don’t want you to know. They were reuploaded just today; who knows how long they’ll stay up.
              • The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie.
              • CBS, 1989: There Was No “Tiananmen Square Massacre”
              • Images from Tiananmen 1989 the West never shows (NSFW / CW: violence and death)
              • Tank Man video footage. Tiananmen Square, Beijing, 1989
              • How psy-ops warriors fooled me about Tiananmen Square: a warning
              • 1989 Tian’anmen Square riots
              • A Note on the Tiananmen Protests
              • Washington Post, 1989: Rebel Without a Magazine

                [Chinese Intellectual’s founder] Liang [Heng] had come from his New York office, where he serves as the magazine’s foreign editor, to Washington Thursday and Friday to address the board of directors at the National Endowment for Democracy – a substantial financial backer of the magazine – to tell it what he knows, what he thinks and what will possibly happen. After his arrival in the United States, he earned his master’s degree in literature from Columbia University and secured an initial $200,000 grant from the NED, a private corporation created in 1983 to “strengthen democratic efforts worldwide,” to start his magazine.

              • The Seattle Times, 2011: Quiet scholar who inspired uprisings

                That is not to say [Gene] Sharp has not seen any action. In 1989, he jetted off to China to witness the uprising in Tiananmen Square. In the early 1990s, he sneaked into a Myanmar rebel camp at the invitation of Robert Helvey, a retired Army colonel who advised the opposition there. They met when Helvey was on a fellowship at Harvard; the military man thought the professor had ideas that could avoid war.

              • The blueprint of regime change operations - How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent

              Great Fire-Wall?

              The firewall isn’t there to keep Chinese people from The Truth. It’s there to keep imperial core meddling out, and to help China develop its own domestic internet services. In contrast, the rest of the world is dependent on / addicted to US internet services from Google/Alphabet, Amazon, Facebook/Meta, Microsoft, etc., which many countries are beginning to regret.

              • 📺 Is The Chinese Firewall Good, Actually?
              • 📺 The Great Firewall of China

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Police_Files

              I already covered Xinjang elsewhere in this post, and if you had read it you would know that Adrian Zenz is a crackpot.

  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Hot take:

    The US has committed horrifying war crimes and crimes against humanity against Muslims and continues to do so.

    And so does China

    Its always fascinating to see the war between Nazis and Tankies fight over which imperial power is based, rather than demonstrating a working frontal lobe and damning both for their crimes.

    • jankforlife@lemmy.mlBannedOP
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      8 months ago

      And so does China

      The only “evidence” of this comes from the empire and is demonstrably false

      • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Idk man, this page has over 401 citations from various sources.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China?wprov=sfla1

        Edit: This also has a lot of citations ns from various sources too.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia_in_China?wprov=sfla1

        • jankforlife@lemmy.mlBannedOP
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          Ah yes. Libopedia the pinnicle of (western) truth!

  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    Genocide is bad. If your ideology prevents you from agreeing with that statement, you are a monster.

    • jankforlife@lemmy.mlBannedOP
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      8 months ago

      Genocide IS bad, but the “muslim genocide” in China is nothing but a CIA op, as usual

      • hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de
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        8 months ago

        You are a CIA op.

        • jankforlife@lemmy.mlBannedOP
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          8 months ago

          Wow 10/10 lib response, so good

  • Aljernon@lemmy.today
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    8 months ago

    Valid meme but hopefully it doesn’t minimize the plight of Uyghurs in peoples minds.

    • jankforlife@lemmy.mlBannedOP
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      8 months ago

      The only plight is the plight of a psyop

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