• Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    hey usa, china is building tons of high-speed rail. they’re the leaders in decarbonizing their energy mix. they’re building tons of housing to handle population growth. they’re financing infrastructure projects in the global south. why not try beating them at all that?

    no? just wars again? okay.

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        Even with more property rights. If you own a house and you don’t want to sell it when they want to build a new highway, they build the highway surrounding your house, instead of expropriating you like in western countries.

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          tbh living there in the middle of a highway would be hell

          it is disappointing how despite how ahead china is in terms of public transit, they still build car-centric infrastructure like this. at least, unlike north america, shitty car-centric infrastructure is not all there is lol

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            If you’ll notice, it’s a 4 lane highway, which is medium level traffic, because most people take the train or electric scooters. In America this would be an 8 lane highway or bigger.

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          Fascinating as it may be, that’s a pretty horrible picture.

          Imagine living that house. It’s a pretty stark demonstration of the state gets what it wants, one way or another.

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            That’s why it’s important to recognize that the state serves its ruling class, which in China’s case is the proletariat. That’s why they are far more leniant and even allowed this situation in the first place.

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    The US is basically a “this is good for bitcoin”, but as a country.

    Its slow, humiliating, public suicide is even more pathetic than great britain’s.

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        I’m not sure how many US imperial troops died, but they did lose a good amount of aircraft:

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          So glad that American’s voted for the “No more wars” president while hoping for a better cost of living.

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            The US is not a democracy, its a one-party capitalist empire, and even its controlled opposition wing wanted to go to war with Iran for a long time. The democrats under Biden also massively increased funding to Israel to help destroy palestine:

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    I think Americans should ban debate clubs. Clearly they’re only teaching how to create mental convolutions instead of creating sound arguments.

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    China couldn’t give a shit about supposed US deterrence.
    Henry knows that, he also knows that China receives the largest share of oil exports passing through the Strait of Hormuz, accounting for 37.7% of the trade route’s total volume.
    That is why they had their own blockade.

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    I’d put money on China being able to pwn the USA with the click of a button. We know about salt typhoon, and there’s been documented backdoors in IoT devices and some Unitree bots. Imagine all the things we don’t know about. Especially regarding power generation and general aging infrastructure.

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        Tell that to Saddam and Gaddafi.

        lol the downvote. Did those governments that no longer exist actually win the wars that caused them to cease existing?

        *this doesn’t mean they were good or justified. If anyone thinks I implied or said that you need to learn how to read.

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            1st Iraq was a clear win, both militarily and strategically. 2nd Iraq and Libya were strategic victories because the real purpose was to maintain the petrodollar, which was attained.

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              Actually the reason your government gave was to get the weapons of mass destruction from Saddam, which was proven to be a lie, so how did you win an illegal war based on fake goals?

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                You believe US when they state the war reasons and goals? Lol, lmao even. They achieved a real war goal of stopping Iraq and Libya from breaking dollar monopoly on oil sale.

                Also it’s not my government, my government was actually quite honest, they admitted they went there to bootlick USA and loot Iraq.

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                  Uhh no, I’m saying they didn’t win the war because they couldn’t meet their stated goals, I wouldn’t trust that country as far as I could throw it.

                  My bad for assuming, btw.

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            Do you think Saddam’s government won? The US won the war with Iraq if not the war with the insurgency.

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                Ok so you can’t win a war if it wasn’t clean and easy? And since when has the publicly stated justification for a war ever had anything to do with who won? Lots of wars start with false justifications.

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                  Show me a reputable source that claims the US won the war. The 20 year war, of a superpower, VS a small middle eastern country.

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    It is absolutely maddening to see American pundits defend every dumbshit, ruinous, genocidal policy over the last twenty years by pointing at China and claiming, “We had to show them we were the boss”.

    From AI to A-bombs, there’s nothing you can’t get away with by insisting “China Bad! This will stop them!”

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    China and Iran are allies.

    If the US and China go to war Iran will close the strait to their enemies. And we’ve seen the US is impotent to that and overly reliant on oil.

    I think China just has to deal with a first strike from the US and then wait for an impotent United States to fall apart and starve.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Literally the equivalent of a homeless libertarian laughing at well to do, middle class Chinese people because he thinks he’s better off

    demonstrating that the US is willing

    Yes, because America is famous for the ambiguity around whether or not we’d go to war with global South nations

    and able

    No

    In that sense, it was already won

    The government can behave like a rabid dog, but China would Old Yeller America

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      Yep, the Americans totally were on the verge of doing something about the Epstein files, but then that dastardly Trump figured out a way to distract them!

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      Americans famously can’t hold more than one idea at time, if Trump shit his pants tomorrow the entire investigation of Epstein is gone.

      Please president, hold your shit!!!