• pineapple@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Yes, I am certain that your life will begin improving measurably when the food runs out.

    Revolutions have had a history of dramatically improving living conditions for everyone as soon as the old system is abolished. The Russian revolution ended famine and doubled life expectancy.

    Alternatively, there can be the simple recognition that breaking the system that exists will result in a mass casualty event

    Revolutions also don’t have to result in violence (think of a mass strike across the entire country that never ends). But when capitalism gets desperate it will start a civil war if that is its only hope to maintain the old system.

    And think about the mass suffering caused by mass poverty, genocide, minority oppression, political polarisation, endless war, boring work and the list goes on. If one revolution is all it takes to install a democratic society and fix so many of our problems, I know I’m on board.

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      11 hours ago

      Yeah, everyone except the people that end up against the wall.

      More often than not, those people aren’t the ones causing the structural problems in society. The really rich people with the power all escape before that point.

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        2 hours ago

        Yeah, everyone except the people that end up against the wall.

        Yes generally peoples living conditions do not improve for people who have been shot dead by a firing squad, since they stop living. Although can you please be more specific, I’m not sure how that is related to our discussion.

        More often than not, those people aren’t the ones causing the structural problems in society. The really rich people with the power all escape before that point.

        Okay, I’m not sure if that is true or not but I don’t think that is relevant anyway.

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        10 hours ago

        Source: my ass

        Now you’re just lazily regurgitating Orwell-style fed bullshit about how somehow revolution won’t change anything.

        “Everyone except the people that end up against the wall” yeah that’s the point dumbass, the oligarchs cannot be allowed to fuck up the new world too

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          The oligarchs will escape. The people up against the wall will be those that are not wealthy enough to escape, but not poor enough to be desperate.

          There’s a reason that Orwell was banned in the US for being pro-communist and banned in the USSR for being pro-capitalist. That reason is because Orwell was anti-authoritarian.