some peoples livelihoods
The vast majority.
I’m sure the Uighurs aren’t feeling the benefit.
Ah. I have Saddam’s WMD to sell you.
You uncritically believe your empire’s propaganda, even after years of failing to produce evidence for its accusations.
Other people are not obligated to believe Zenz on his word the way you do.
And what empire are we talking here? 😅
The one you are spreading propaganda for, the most prolific invader in the world - NATO.
Should anyone rule for 15 years?
Why not? What’s the difference?
Objectively speaking, in your personal utopian vision for a perfect government, checks, balances, etc and so forth?
Have these ‘checks and balances’ been helpful in reining in the most malicious polity in the world? Or have they only served to preserve the status quo?
It’s pretty great in terms of improving its people’s livelihoods and not invading anybody. Unlike your empire.
I mean, what’s a social issue you might care about? Trans rights? Sure, let’s go with that. Which party issued guidance for including gender identity under Title IX protections? And which party is in charge in the states with bathroom bills?
Which party did Stonewall and other such things - the actual things that improved LGBT rights, rather than politicians doing lip service after the fact?
Both parties are similarly awful in this regard.
What about economic and industrial policy?
Both parties want to use the economy to subjugate, torture, and kill people outside of NATO. That includes me, as well as a bunch of other people from this site, by the way.
Both parties are also interested in keeping your domestic working class in awful conditions.
So, for the vast majority of humanity, there is no difference here.
Which party’s NLRB overruled Specialty Healthcare, and which one restored it?
Notably, neither party has given you good healthcare despite their ability to.
Which party is cracking around the question of enternal military support for Israel, and which party still steadfastly supports them?
Both parties support Pissrael. Stop memory holing the recent Dem administration’s full support for the genocide after its escalation (remember, the genocide started about a century ago at least), even doing things like the war crime pier.
Not even sure why you even think that the blue fascists have been in any way reconsidering support for their asset. This is, frankly, just your fan fiction.
Decorum my ass
You haven’t pointed to any differences between the parties other than that.
Build anything, literally anything, that’s nearly as effective as a fucking vote and I’ll spare you a thought
That’s a very low bar. Lying in bed and reading - especially educational stuff - would be more effective than voting in the US.
It doesn’t educate workers about about what to do, and it’s actually fucking incorrect
If it was as incorrect as you claim it to be, you would have been able to show results. And yet, it’s just a couple of centuries of failures, colonialism, and genocides.
Ah yes I see absolutely no difference between these two puppets. I have seen absolutely no difference between the leadership and policies of these two organizations. None whatsoever.
You are saying this as if there is a difference between them other than decorum.
Ah yes, the hyper capitalist, right wing, oligarchy of Russia is such a wonderful alternative to liberalism
Firstly, you quite literally support NATO (including Ukraine), which the description of ‘hyper capitalist, right wing, oligarchy’ fits even more (you can even just look at Ukraine - the epitome of what you decry in Russia).
They are both horrible garbage. Have fun being a campist.
You quite literally are a campist yourself, and you support an even worse USian vassal in Ukraine.
Generally, accusations of ‘campism’ are just revealing of a person’s white supremacist views, as the accusations are invariably flung only whenever somebody opposes colonialism.
Because their comment was in a whataboutism in defense of of propaganda
You don’t get to complain about propaganda while invoking ‘whataboutism’ (i.e. calling out your hypocrisy) - a very obvious sign of you being heavily propagandised.
If you accept state propaganda just because it is not “western” flavor
Weirdly enough, you don’t make such protestations against your empire’s propaganda.
Enjoy your hard right wing, capitalist, oligarchical slop
Quick question - do you support NATO (including Ukraine) in the war in Ukraine?
My whataboutismeter is overloading, stop.
People who genuinely believe that invoking the word ‘whataboutism’ is a serious argument, or that what they call ‘whataboutism’ (i.e. pointing out hypocrisy) is a fallacy are silly.
While you’re here, I’d like to ask you a couple of questions:
What do you propose a state do when the most prolific invader in the world tries to amass military personnel and weapons on its border, especially by doing a coup against a neighbouring state.
What criticism of Russia do you have that doesn’t apply to the polities that you support?
Weird how you never propose to ban NATO’s news platforms. Only the platforms of your empire’s designated enemies.
You are proving my point - you can’t actually say anything bad about him (without exposing your hipocrisy), and you can’t provide an alternative course of action for Russia. You only say that you can.
I invite you to prove me wrong.
Go talk to some people living in moscow if you feel so strongly
What should I ask them? And why specifically Moscow and not, say, Crimea, or the Far East?
It’s kind of silly how you people keep complaining about Putin while not being to say anything bad about him (other than what applies to the polities you support).
On that note, I do wonder what you think a state should do when the most prolific invader brings weapons to its borders to attack it, especially when accompanied by attempting coups against its neighbours.
I care less that he did those warcrimes, and more so that he atones for them and does positive things
He has done nothing to atone for them, however. What are you even talking about?
Contrary to what you are implying, one does not accidentally build a mortar, fire it at civilians, and then speak on forums about how awesome of an experience that was.
One also does not accidentally sign up multiple times to go torture and kill people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
You were trying to excuse a USSian invader going around orders in order to fire explosives at civilians in the comment I replied to:
They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
He was a guard at Abu Ghraib, so he was already known for doing what you claim to be unforgivable when western liberals were saying how he should be rewarded with a high position in the most vile state in existence.
You’re aware the House of Trade fire happened over 10 years ago right
And?
And if there’s any stories about Ukraine deliberately targeting civilians, please share
I take it you have never looked into it, as, among other cases, they literally struck a student dormitory and a civilian bus very recently.
Also, apart from the Ukrainian state targeting civilians, they have also very famously perfidiously used civilians/pretended military personnel to be civilians to carry out a drone strike last year.
If afterwards he says he shouldn’t have been there and done that
He says it was an ‘excellent experience’. He considered the ‘experience’ to be good enough to sign up several more times, including as a mercenary, and to then brag about it.
is anti Israel
Well, he isn’t. He’s even friends with zionists.
and his opponents are pro Israel and in the case of Susan Collins literally voted to send his ass and all the other thousands of troops there
She didn’t force him to sign up even once, let alone several times.
He also isn’t any better in terms of policies - he wants to strengthen the military.
My reaction is he wasn’t killing civilians for his own kicks
He has literally said that he had fun doing it and bragged about it.
You claimed that one of the parties is better on LGBT rights. I pointed out that the blue fascists only pay lip service to it, and that relevant rights were won by other people. Decidedly not by voting.
You claimed that one of the parties is better on economic policy. I pointed out that the economic policies of both are geared towards subjugation, torture and killing of the rest of the world, as well as its own domestic working class.
You claimed that one of the parties gave you better healthcare when all you’ve been fed are scraps. At best, this is a ‘bad cop - good cop’ routine. Also, remind me, which administration cancelled the RvW?
You claimed that the party that built the war crime pier, has been enthusiastically supporting the escalation of the genocide with weapon supplies, defunded UNRWA to contribute to the genocide escalation, cracked down on protestors against the genocide, etc. is somehow not a steadfast supporter of Pissrael.
Your point about Pissrael is especially silly, I’ve got to add.
Ask a Libyan if they are better off after Obama turned their country into an open-air slave market.
Ask a person in Afghanistan if they were worse off while Obama was bombing their hospitals.
Oh, hey, let’s actually do that. Let’s also ask which administration repealed the RvW precedent, despite the presidents of the relevant party explicitly promising to enshrine it in the USian constitution for decades.
Oh? Were they nervous about Biden that was sending them military supplies to conduct a genocide and that built the war crime pier for them?
Voting in the US has produced approximately zero good results over its history.
‘They’ have been convincing you all this time that voting matters.
If you actually think that it matters, then why are you unable to point to the good results?
EDIT: Also, this:
https://mander.xyz/post/55288596?scrollToComments=true