Thanks for the write up. I’ll have a look at the sources you sent
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I don’t know those terms tbh because Im just some pleb. i would welcome some simple explanation of it.
Wikipedia asserts “300 to 2700” dead, with the CCP asserted toll (according to wikipedia) being 241. That isn’t a peaceful dispersion, and, while not 10,000 people, is still a massacre.
I just don’t understand how events like this doesn’t substantially taint your image of them, in the same sense the stolen generation policies (for my country, Australia) are massive stains on my countries’ histories that we havent fully contented with.
But trying to relate it to what I my original comment, I worry about denials of mistakes that countries have made, results in failing to see their current mistakes. In particular aswell, seeing what would normally be considered a grave immoraility, to be seen in a much more positive light because its anti western imperialism.
What I am saying aswell, is this also distorts the truth of events or facts, in a similar manner to an average western citizen’s truth because of their aversion to china.
I think they aren’t the aggressor in the China/USA relationship. The US is in their “backyard” and has clearly surrounded them, and China is naturally nervous about it
Name one major western critic of china you agree with.
I’ll name a critic of the US: the cuba embargo for the past 70 has been a major disaster, and any deaths from economic collapse isnt due to cuba’s socialism, it is instead because of the US.
Do that, I’ll be far more willing to believe you.
Would technically also, and indeed commonly go the other direction, but please .ml, stop navigating the world based soley on whether the west supports/is against something
When you believe truth is only dependent on who says it (west=lies, not west=truth) you start believing nonsense like china has not flaws, or events with verifiable footage (1989 TS) are exaggerations/a western lies.


It depends on the evidence for the accusation just like anything else. I admit, for most accusations I don’t have time so just move on. For more serious accusations, I would think about it more whether its true.
Sometimes the US makes shit up, sometimes it doesn’t. Same with China. I just have to take the time to determine if the evidence is sound, at least in principle.