I never lied about your position. I genuinely responded to what I believed your position to be, and invited you to correct me. I will not lie about my own position just to satisfy you.
I never once said your claim was “don’t organize, only vote.” I said you claimed voting to be more effective than organizing in the immediate moment. I asked for you to explain this, then you called me a liar.
Ok, so let’s dissect this position. When you say “organize”, what specifically are you referring to? What are you trying to organize and for what goal?
I am specifically referring to building up a disciplined, educated, united working-class party that can develop cadre, struggle alongside the rest of the working class in union struggles, tenant struggles, political struggles, and educate the masses and agitate among them to connect these struggles to the struggle of the working class itself against capitalists and capitalism itself. No less than this. The goal is to create an organization that is correct, capable, and trusted by the rest of the working classes in the event of crisis, to where the struggle can be taken from the crisis to a revolution to establish socialism.
Each aspect of party-building and labor struggles is a part of organizing. The civil rights movement was won through organizing and struggle, as an example.
I never lied about your position. I genuinely responded to what I believed your position to be, and invited you to correct me. I will not lie about my own position just to satisfy you.
I never once said your claim was “don’t organize, only vote.” I said you claimed voting to be more effective than organizing in the immediate moment. I asked for you to explain this, then you called me a liar.
Ok, so let’s dissect this position. When you say “organize”, what specifically are you referring to? What are you trying to organize and for what goal?
I am specifically referring to building up a disciplined, educated, united working-class party that can develop cadre, struggle alongside the rest of the working class in union struggles, tenant struggles, political struggles, and educate the masses and agitate among them to connect these struggles to the struggle of the working class itself against capitalists and capitalism itself. No less than this. The goal is to create an organization that is correct, capable, and trusted by the rest of the working classes in the event of crisis, to where the struggle can be taken from the crisis to a revolution to establish socialism.
Each aspect of party-building and labor struggles is a part of organizing. The civil rights movement was won through organizing and struggle, as an example.