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Tolc@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.ml · 28 days ago

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Tolc@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.ml · 28 days ago
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    You’re really not engaging with what I’m saying. I’m not saying it was ml parties within the country but that the momentum of the socialist block and risk of spreading worker resentment and solidarity forced the ruling class in Europe and America into providing some basic concessions to workers at home in the form of welfare benefits etc alongside a healthy dose of McCarthyism such that the home situation would remain stable and extraction from the global south could continue. Then once the Socialist block hit the major setback of the Soviet collapse they began repealing said benefits as is plainly seen right through to the modern day.

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      partij 1905[4] 1909 +/−
      zetels
      Algemeene Bond 25 25 0
      Anti-Revolutionaire Partij 15 23 +8
      Liberale Unie 24 20 −4

      Of the 3 major parties which of them had to risk resentment? No, This was the strength of unions voting in union leadership to enact workers rights. The socialist influence is fallacy of the red scare on its head, had socialism been popular the Socialist party wouldn’t have lost thier only seats in parliament but would have been the most popular party.

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        If you’re not going to engage even with academic papers provided and continue to bang your head on an idiotic strawman of internal parties as opposed to the outside pressure which lead investing the spoils of plunder in buying off the proletariat at home such that socialism would remain fringe I think it’s best we leave this here. I thought Europeans were supposed to be more politically competent and capable of reasonable debate than Americans but perhaps that was simply a rumour.

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          Simply throwing some links over the fence is not a rebuttal, you need to use those sources and explain them using exerts

          copy pasting from a predefined communism ™️ data lists is not a much of anything.

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            That’s what the abstracts of the papers is for.

            Anyway it’s late and I don’t want to talk to you anymore. Good luck on educating yourself. You should start with settlers and maybe notice some parallels to Europe before delving into the academic work.

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      You are equating us pol to European pol, I’m providing data and links to back my claim you are providing American tanky feels. Do better

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        First I’m not American or European. Second since the end of WW2 Europe has been a client state of the US. Third Europeans and American are equally contemptuous of the global south. Fourth you have provided “data and links” to back your claims against a strawman you constructed in your mind, you have yet to even once engage with anything I’ve said so you might as well have not provided any.

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          European countries initial worker protections that you mentioned

          Your words not mine

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            21 hours ago

            Petersen, K. The early Cold War and the Western welfare state

            The Cold War and the Welfare State in Western Europe

            Bhambra, G. K. Relations of extraction, relations of redistribution: Empire, nation, and the construction of the British welfare state

            Race and Colonialism in the Construction of Labour Markets and the Welfare State

            Colonialism, Postcolonialism and the Liberal Welfare State

            Read Settlers

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              Are you kidding me, worker rights have existed and have progressed far before the Cold War I’m talking 1906!

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                Nice picking out keywords from 2 links and ignoring the rest alongside the contents of all of them. Ignoramus.

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