To interject I’m really enjoying this conversation with you we’re mostly keeping things civil
While I obviously don’t have much knowledge on American history I can tell that an American ML’s opinion on even the word defence has other connotations to it.
On the other hand using said trauma as justification that military defence can not exist in other countries is an overreaction.
Yes that’s what happens when you have opinions that aren’t based directly off of one person.
Never!
Continue to have comments get removed
You are so angry that a lemmy.ml mod removed your comment about hair.
Please don’t call me a dipshit
Are you following my account to get back at your mods for removing your hateful comment?
Yes the US indeed has ulterior motives, whom I don’t agree with but they are not a defence only military and as such don’t apply to my initial statement of self defence.
NATO from what I’ve read has been picky about what constitutes as defence and invasion, that’s not to say that I by default agree with all of thier choices.
Territorial integrity definitely has a material impact to the populace ask Anne Frank.
Your first sentence is a straw man and is just dishonest.
The second sentence would make Vladimir Putin proud. When as the great empire of Ukraine gained any ground over the lines drawn after the collapse of the USSR?
That’s their problem, not mine
That’s fair so long as bombs aren’t flying on your neighbours house.
Simply throwing some links over the fence is not a rebuttal, you need to use those sources and explain them using exerts
copy pasting from a predefined communism ™️ data lists is not a much of anything.
Are you kidding me, worker rights have existed and have progressed far before the Cold War I’m talking 1906!
| partij | 1905[4] | 1909 | +/− |
|---|---|---|---|
| zetels | |||
| Algemeene Bond | 25 | 25 | 0 |
| Anti-Revolutionaire Partij | 15 | 23 | +8 |
| Liberale Unie | 24 | 20 | −4 |
Of the 3 major parties which of them had to risk resentment? No, This was the strength of unions voting in union leadership to enact workers rights. The socialist influence is fallacy of the red scare on its head, had socialism been popular the Socialist party wouldn’t have lost thier only seats in parliament but would have been the most popular party.
European countries initial worker protections that you mentioned
Your words not mine
That is why I’m only defending the concept on the requirement that it is to defend your country not attack another.
The Japanese or Dutch self defence forces are different to the US or Russian invasion troops.
Obviously not come on be real. Please read what I wrote.
You are equating us pol to European pol, I’m providing data and links to back my claim you are providing American tanky feels. Do better
Cool let’s have a look:
“Comité van Actie tegen het Arbeidscontract” tot stand waarvan de SDAP, ANWV en NVV deel uitmaken. Samen met de SDAP heeft deze commissie invloed kunnen uitoefenen op de uiteindelijke wet die in 1907 werd aangenomen en in 1909 inging. De cao had vanaf dat moment een wettelijke basis.
SDAP (Sociaal Democratische Arbeiders Partij) is the old PVDA and the ANWV and NVV are workers unions.
https://vakbondshistorie.nl/dossiers/de-geschiedenis-van-de-cao/
The ruling party did not contain any ML in fact the pressure come from Christian unions not ussr socialists.
Drafting your population when you have a foreign adversary dropping bombs on you is the right thing to do. It is known as self defence. I know I’ll get some hate for this from most people but yeah. As a Dutch man my country’s history contains the defeatism to the fucking Nazis.
Do you have a publisher that you 100% stand by? Come on.
Bad faith news sources like RT, FoxNews, OngehoordNederland. Should not have the same rights sorry, similar to blocking bad faith politicians from being elected, see the ongoing case for removing AfD.
What Soviet’s? I’m talking about 00s. I can only speak for my country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Dutch_general_election
In bad faith would be acting as if I was a Communist and then twisting the argument to undermine ML
As a user with a red rose as icon and not of a *.ml server it is on you for assuming that I am a ML.
On the other hand I find it to be bad faith to follow Russian oligarch news networks then call oneself a Communist or use the atrocities of west to bothsides or even dismiss those of countries donning the hammer and sickle.